Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Female W Haplogroup From N2
I had to check out Haplogroup N on Wikipedia, which is a source that comes up about it.
A- Found in some Amerindians, Japanese, and Koreans
I- 10% frequency in Northern, Eastern Europe
S- Some Australian aborigines
W- Some Eastern Europeans, South Asians, and southern East Asians
X- Some Amerindians, Southern Siberians, Southwest Asians, and Southern Europeans
Y- Ainus and Nivkhs; 1% in Southern Siberia
R- Large group found within the N type.Populations contained therein can be divided geographically into West Eurasia and East Eurasia. Almost all European populations and a large number of Middle-Eastern population today are contained within this branch. A smaller percentage is contained in other N type groups (See above). Below are subclades of R:
B- Some Chinese, Tibetans, Mongolians, Central Asians, Koreans, Amerindians, South Siberians, Japanese, Austronesians
F- Mainly found in southeastern Asia, especially Vietnam; 8.3% in Hvar Island in Croatia.[5]
R0- Found in Arabia and among Ethiopians and Somalis; branch HV (branch H; branch V)- Europe, Western Asia, North Africa;
Pre-JT- Arose in the Levant (modern Lebanon area), found in 25% frequency in Bedouin poupulations; branch JT (branch J; branch T)- North, Eastern Europe, Indus, Mediterranean
U- High frequency in Scandinavia, Baltic countries, Mediterranean
N1a has also been detected in Southern Siberia and was found in a 2,500-year-old Scytho-Siberian burial in the Altai region.
W came from N:
W appears in the western Ural Mountains and the eastern Baltic area, though it is also found in India.
Wilma, the first member of the W haplogroup, was born between 49,000 and 26,800 years ago in what is now northwest India or northern Pakistan. In the same area and in the same time periods women of the U7 and R2 haplogroups were born as well.
By between 40,700 and 23,300 years ago, these people were distributed in a band across southwest Asia, from Anatolia to northern India . By a third route, through the valleys of Kashmir, a small group of W people reached central Asia between 36,000 and 19,100 years ago.
With the onset of the last glacial maximum, the area became extremely arid and the mountains blocked by glaciers. There are indications that the W-U7-R2 people were broken into two groups, separated by an arid desert that stretched from the Indian Ocean up to the glacier-bound Asian mountains. These tribes managed to survive in two areas of 'glacial refuge' . A similar refuge has been proposed in Spain for the ancestors of the H and V haplogroups that dominate in Western Europe.
After the glaciers receded and the deserts retreated 14,000 years ago, the way was clear for the expansion of modern humans from their ice age prisons. Wilma's descendants entered Europe through the Balkans, spreading in several directions. One lineage with a distinctive mutation at letter 119 in HVR2 settled in what is now France. Descendants of a woman with a change at letter 16362 of HVR1 spread from Central through Northern Europe and then to the British Isles. Lineages with very little change from their Wilman ancestor settled in sparsely-populated Finland and Scandinavia. But everywhere in Europe there were also other W lineages that shared ancestors with cousins still living in India, Pakistan, and Iran.
W: Haplogroup W is a "daughter" of N and a "sister" of R, I, X, & A.FTDNA's DNA Testing Discussion Forum - Haplogroup W ThreadMary Zucker's mtDNA Haplogroup W Project (from Wikipedia)
It looks to me as I look at the mt-DNA Human Migration map on Kerchner's website that our female came out of Africa as an L3 70 thousand years ago and went north to become N for just a little while, which was 50 thousand years ago. Then is branched, continuing on northward as an I and a W 20 thousand years ago and I 15 thousand years ago. So our beginnings were at least 20,000 years ago. Considering that the last ice age was about 10,000 years ago, we've lived through a lot. Now don't get excited. Moses came along only about what? 5769 years ago? So people have been around for quite a spell.
My mother's line is H. They have their beginnings 30,000 years ago into Europe. It looks like they branched off of R which goes back 50,000 years.
The test for females shows the differences from the CRC. differences between your code and that of a lady who happened to be sequenced in Cambridge, England, in the 1990's. She was actually a member of haplogroup H, the most common in Europe. Our differences making us W in the basic test are: 16145A, 16223T, 16265G, 16519C.
The other interesting feature is that the sequence is W1, belonging to the 16320 sub branch. The 16320 sub branch appears to have two main branches, one centred around Poland and the other in Iberia. (from My Family W) only part I understood, sort of.
Reference: www.kerchner.com/haplogroups_mtdna.htm
http://www.kerchner.com/images/dna/mtdna_migrationmap_(FTDNA2006).jpg
http://www.thecid.com/w/when.htm
Abraham's children-race, identity, and the DNA of the Chosen People by Jon Entine
The N type consists of:
A- Found in some Amerindians, Japanese, and Koreans
I- 10% frequency in Northern, Eastern Europe
S- Some Australian aborigines
W- Some Eastern Europeans, South Asians, and southern East Asians
X- Some Amerindians, Southern Siberians, Southwest Asians, and Southern Europeans
Y- Ainus and Nivkhs; 1% in Southern Siberia
R- Large group found within the N type.Populations contained therein can be divided geographically into West Eurasia and East Eurasia. Almost all European populations and a large number of Middle-Eastern population today are contained within this branch. A smaller percentage is contained in other N type groups (See above). Below are subclades of R:
B- Some Chinese, Tibetans, Mongolians, Central Asians, Koreans, Amerindians, South Siberians, Japanese, Austronesians
F- Mainly found in southeastern Asia, especially Vietnam; 8.3% in Hvar Island in Croatia.[5]
R0- Found in Arabia and among Ethiopians and Somalis; branch HV (branch H; branch V)- Europe, Western Asia, North Africa;
Pre-JT- Arose in the Levant (modern Lebanon area), found in 25% frequency in Bedouin poupulations; branch JT (branch J; branch T)- North, Eastern Europe, Indus, Mediterranean
U- High frequency in Scandinavia, Baltic countries, Mediterranean
N1a has also been detected in Southern Siberia and was found in a 2,500-year-old Scytho-Siberian burial in the Altai region.
W came from N:
W appears in the western Ural Mountains and the eastern Baltic area, though it is also found in India.
Wilma, the first member of the W haplogroup, was born between 49,000 and 26,800 years ago in what is now northwest India or northern Pakistan. In the same area and in the same time periods women of the U7 and R2 haplogroups were born as well.
By between 40,700 and 23,300 years ago, these people were distributed in a band across southwest Asia, from Anatolia to northern India . By a third route, through the valleys of Kashmir, a small group of W people reached central Asia between 36,000 and 19,100 years ago.
With the onset of the last glacial maximum, the area became extremely arid and the mountains blocked by glaciers. There are indications that the W-U7-R2 people were broken into two groups, separated by an arid desert that stretched from the Indian Ocean up to the glacier-bound Asian mountains. These tribes managed to survive in two areas of 'glacial refuge' . A similar refuge has been proposed in Spain for the ancestors of the H and V haplogroups that dominate in Western Europe.
After the glaciers receded and the deserts retreated 14,000 years ago, the way was clear for the expansion of modern humans from their ice age prisons. Wilma's descendants entered Europe through the Balkans, spreading in several directions. One lineage with a distinctive mutation at letter 119 in HVR2 settled in what is now France. Descendants of a woman with a change at letter 16362 of HVR1 spread from Central through Northern Europe and then to the British Isles. Lineages with very little change from their Wilman ancestor settled in sparsely-populated Finland and Scandinavia. But everywhere in Europe there were also other W lineages that shared ancestors with cousins still living in India, Pakistan, and Iran.
W: Haplogroup W is a "daughter" of N and a "sister" of R, I, X, & A.FTDNA's DNA Testing Discussion Forum - Haplogroup W ThreadMary Zucker's mtDNA Haplogroup W Project (from Wikipedia)
It looks to me as I look at the mt-DNA Human Migration map on Kerchner's website that our female came out of Africa as an L3 70 thousand years ago and went north to become N for just a little while, which was 50 thousand years ago. Then is branched, continuing on northward as an I and a W 20 thousand years ago and I 15 thousand years ago. So our beginnings were at least 20,000 years ago. Considering that the last ice age was about 10,000 years ago, we've lived through a lot. Now don't get excited. Moses came along only about what? 5769 years ago? So people have been around for quite a spell.
My mother's line is H. They have their beginnings 30,000 years ago into Europe. It looks like they branched off of R which goes back 50,000 years.
The test for females shows the differences from the CRC. differences between your code and that of a lady who happened to be sequenced in Cambridge, England, in the 1990's. She was actually a member of haplogroup H, the most common in Europe. Our differences making us W in the basic test are: 16145A, 16223T, 16265G, 16519C.
The other interesting feature is that the sequence is W1, belonging to the 16320 sub branch. The 16320 sub branch appears to have two main branches, one centred around Poland and the other in Iberia. (from My Family W) only part I understood, sort of.
Reference: www.kerchner.com/haplogroups_mtdna.htm
http://www.kerchner.com/images/dna/mtdna_migrationmap_(FTDNA2006).jpg
http://www.thecid.com/w/when.htm
Abraham's children-race, identity, and the DNA of the Chosen People by Jon Entine
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